58. Chicken Feet Religion
Martin sent this in....
Gidday Ross I cant get in to make these comments and ask Questions so hope you are able to transfer across.
Chicken feet and bottom Feeders.
I believe this to be a mixture of Science and Religion and wondered if Ross and his Dog may be able to help sort which is which and the fishes from the feet.
I was fortunate to partake of a little sustenance with 3 most accomplished and sincere gentlemen today.Two of whom are upstanding “living” Christians.
Our table was provided with 4 Cooked chicken feet.Done beautifully with ginger and Garlic.
So, two gentlemen would not partake.
We are aware that some religious followings suggest one should not partake of the cloven hoof or of the creatures of the sea which are bottom dwellers, scavengers, and of course of some of Gods other wonderful creation which may be as serpants etc.
Here we have one gentleman who in no way would even entertain the thought of partaking of a chickens foot.Is this because the feet have been where no man would wish to tread ?Is this a religious belief?
Two of us happily ate two feet each ,just to be well balanced or as the Irish would say to be sure ,to be sure.I admit at times to having eaten four at one sitting and find them to be delectable. Is there anything religious in relation to not partaking of these delicacies.Is it as it were Eve partaking of that first delectable apple??
Was my good friend knocking back these delicacies on the Basis of Religion or Science??
From a scientific point of view,we all know where these feet have been,but they have been washed,steam cleaned and cooked again.There’s no residual gravel in them.
So the Question remains Ross could this be an allurement to partake of delectable morsals which may have Dire effects (ie.Religious) or For some scientific reason that if partaken of they may cause dire effects?
Wondering if you and or the dog could help sort this one out.
I can Imagine the dog may not have the wisdom to help on matters of food,but would you mind asking ??
Martin
MMmm, big problem.
My problem is, like I know I do left field, but chickens havent been in my field since the fox was.
Dont know much about chicken religions, but have found something on google, see below.
So I asked the dog, Ross's dog, about it
He said well, he keeps his ear to the ground, mainly because its closer to start with, him being so short and all.
He says the word is, while there are no mainstream religions deal with chicken feet, there is a concept in most western religions involving chicken feet:
In each and every religion the dog has heard of (down at ground level), it is the one single unifying factor where people will not want to be in fellowship with anyone who eats chicken feet.
Funny that. The dog may just have something. You will notice how , in your letter, Martin, you already made that distinction....two of us eat them, two of us dont.
You may even have a two by two ministry starting to happen.
Ross
From Google:
Chickens in religion
In India, the Rooster is an insignia of Karthikeya, son of Lord Shiva, the God of Destruction. Karthikeya is known by his popular names of Murugan and Subrahmanya in the southern part of the country.
Chickens, Indonesia
In Indonesia the chicken has great significance during the Hindu cremation ceremony. A chicken is a channel for evil spirits which may be present during the ceremony. A chicken is tethered by the leg and kept present at the ceremony for the duration to ensure that any evil spirits present during the ceremony go into the chicken and not the family members present. The chicken is then taken home and returns to its normal life. It is not treated in any special way or slaughtered after the ceremony.
In ancient Greece, the chicken was not normally used for sacrifices, perhaps because it was still considered an exotic animal. Because of its valour, cocks are found as attributes of Ares, Heracles and Athena. The Greeks believed that even lions were afraid of cocks. Several of Aesop's Fables reference this belief.
In the cult of Mithras, the cock was a symbol of the divine light and a guardian against evil.
In the Bible, Jesus prophesied the betrayal by Peter: "And he said, I tell thee, Peter, the cock shall not crow this day, before that thou shalt thrice deny that thou knowest me." (Luke 22:43) Thus it happened (Luke 22:61), and Peter cried bitterly. This made the cock a symbol for both vigilance and betrayal.
Earlier, Jesus compares himself to a mother hen, when talking about Jerusalem: "How often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!" (Matthew 23:37; also Luke 13:34).
In many Central European folk tales, the devil is believed to flee at the first crowing of a cock.
In some sects of Orthodox Judaism a chicken is slaughtered on the afternoon before Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) in a ceremony called kappores. Although not actually a sacrifice in the biblical sense, the death of the chicken reminds the penitent sinner that his or her life is in God's hands. A woman brings a hen to be slaughtered, a man brings a rooster. The meat is donated to the poor.
The Talmud speaks of learning "courtesy toward one's mate" from the rooster. This might refer to the fact that, when a rooster finds something good to eat, he calls his hens to eat first.
The chicken is one of the Zodiac symbols of the Chinese calendar. Also in Chinese religion, a cooked chicken as a religious offering is usually limited to ancestor veneration and worship of village deities. Vegetarian deities such as Buddha are not one of the recipients of such offerings. Under some observations, an offering of chicken is present with "serious" prayer (while roasted pork is offered during a joyous celebration).
Ross
Gidday Ross I cant get in to make these comments and ask Questions so hope you are able to transfer across.
Chicken feet and bottom Feeders.
I believe this to be a mixture of Science and Religion and wondered if Ross and his Dog may be able to help sort which is which and the fishes from the feet.
I was fortunate to partake of a little sustenance with 3 most accomplished and sincere gentlemen today.Two of whom are upstanding “living” Christians.
Our table was provided with 4 Cooked chicken feet.Done beautifully with ginger and Garlic.
So, two gentlemen would not partake.
We are aware that some religious followings suggest one should not partake of the cloven hoof or of the creatures of the sea which are bottom dwellers, scavengers, and of course of some of Gods other wonderful creation which may be as serpants etc.
Here we have one gentleman who in no way would even entertain the thought of partaking of a chickens foot.Is this because the feet have been where no man would wish to tread ?Is this a religious belief?
Two of us happily ate two feet each ,just to be well balanced or as the Irish would say to be sure ,to be sure.I admit at times to having eaten four at one sitting and find them to be delectable. Is there anything religious in relation to not partaking of these delicacies.Is it as it were Eve partaking of that first delectable apple??
Was my good friend knocking back these delicacies on the Basis of Religion or Science??
From a scientific point of view,we all know where these feet have been,but they have been washed,steam cleaned and cooked again.There’s no residual gravel in them.
So the Question remains Ross could this be an allurement to partake of delectable morsals which may have Dire effects (ie.Religious) or For some scientific reason that if partaken of they may cause dire effects?
Wondering if you and or the dog could help sort this one out.
I can Imagine the dog may not have the wisdom to help on matters of food,but would you mind asking ??
Martin
MMmm, big problem.
My problem is, like I know I do left field, but chickens havent been in my field since the fox was.
Dont know much about chicken religions, but have found something on google, see below.
So I asked the dog, Ross's dog, about it
He said well, he keeps his ear to the ground, mainly because its closer to start with, him being so short and all.
He says the word is, while there are no mainstream religions deal with chicken feet, there is a concept in most western religions involving chicken feet:
In each and every religion the dog has heard of (down at ground level), it is the one single unifying factor where people will not want to be in fellowship with anyone who eats chicken feet.
Funny that. The dog may just have something. You will notice how , in your letter, Martin, you already made that distinction....two of us eat them, two of us dont.
You may even have a two by two ministry starting to happen.
Ross
From Google:
Chickens in religion
In India, the Rooster is an insignia of Karthikeya, son of Lord Shiva, the God of Destruction. Karthikeya is known by his popular names of Murugan and Subrahmanya in the southern part of the country.
Chickens, Indonesia
In Indonesia the chicken has great significance during the Hindu cremation ceremony. A chicken is a channel for evil spirits which may be present during the ceremony. A chicken is tethered by the leg and kept present at the ceremony for the duration to ensure that any evil spirits present during the ceremony go into the chicken and not the family members present. The chicken is then taken home and returns to its normal life. It is not treated in any special way or slaughtered after the ceremony.
In ancient Greece, the chicken was not normally used for sacrifices, perhaps because it was still considered an exotic animal. Because of its valour, cocks are found as attributes of Ares, Heracles and Athena. The Greeks believed that even lions were afraid of cocks. Several of Aesop's Fables reference this belief.
In the cult of Mithras, the cock was a symbol of the divine light and a guardian against evil.
In the Bible, Jesus prophesied the betrayal by Peter: "And he said, I tell thee, Peter, the cock shall not crow this day, before that thou shalt thrice deny that thou knowest me." (Luke 22:43) Thus it happened (Luke 22:61), and Peter cried bitterly. This made the cock a symbol for both vigilance and betrayal.
Earlier, Jesus compares himself to a mother hen, when talking about Jerusalem: "How often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!" (Matthew 23:37; also Luke 13:34).
In many Central European folk tales, the devil is believed to flee at the first crowing of a cock.
In some sects of Orthodox Judaism a chicken is slaughtered on the afternoon before Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) in a ceremony called kappores. Although not actually a sacrifice in the biblical sense, the death of the chicken reminds the penitent sinner that his or her life is in God's hands. A woman brings a hen to be slaughtered, a man brings a rooster. The meat is donated to the poor.
The Talmud speaks of learning "courtesy toward one's mate" from the rooster. This might refer to the fact that, when a rooster finds something good to eat, he calls his hens to eat first.
The chicken is one of the Zodiac symbols of the Chinese calendar. Also in Chinese religion, a cooked chicken as a religious offering is usually limited to ancestor veneration and worship of village deities. Vegetarian deities such as Buddha are not one of the recipients of such offerings. Under some observations, an offering of chicken is present with "serious" prayer (while roasted pork is offered during a joyous celebration).
Ross
posted by Ross at 7:57 pm
1 Comments:
Just in case someone wants a serious answer on this question of whether to eat the feet or not to eet the feet!:
Colossians 2:16 "Let no man judge you in meat or drink,in respect of a holy day ....etc. goes on to tell us not to be subject to rules of this world such as "touch not, tste not, handle not"
Roman 13:14 ..For one believeth that he may eat all things: another...eateth herbs. Let not him that eats despise him that does not eat, and let not him which eats not judge him that eats
or in a more modern version:
Don't argue with Christians about what they think is right or wrong. For instance one person believes it is all right to eat anything. But another believer who has a sensitive conscience will eat only vegetables. Those who think it is allright to eat anything must not look down on those who don't. And those who don't eat certain foods must not condemn those who do, for God has accepted them.
In the same way, some think one day is more holy than another day, while others think every day is alike. Each person should have a personal conviction about this matter.
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